The National Teacher (Echu) was once asked by a monk,
"What is the mind of the ancient Buddhas?"
[Master Echu] replied: "Walls, partitions, tiles, pebbles."
The exchange means: "This is suchness, that is suchness."
The monk turned the question into an expression,
one that lasts for all ages.
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~ Zen Master Dogen, Shobogenzo, Kobutsu-Shin
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